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Transduction - leading transformation - Issue #48

Benjamin P Taylor
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A high entropy edition with a high amount of valuable signal… many thanks to Sin Lu Tan who kept these newsletters and my LinkedIn/blog/Medium postings much better organised for these last few weeks!

Why can’t we talk the same language, when it’s so important?
Why can’t we talk the same language, when it’s so important?
For change, management, innovation – for all our futures. You should listen to this 70-minute work-through of a US council meeting – in Springfield Massachusetts – with a commentary from Charles Marohn of Strong Towns. link (audio one third down) https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2021/12/13/two-different-languages transcript https://otter.ai/u/n6-YvQZRj8iQkvfN6vva_HERhTY Why on earth would you spend over an hour of your life … Continue reading Why can’t we talk the same language, when it’s so important? →
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What do you do when you need to get yourself going – when you’re short on motivation?
I have a to-do list as long as your arm – worthwhile stuff. And a bunch of deadlines, which usually motivate me 🙂 I have had a #coffee, I’ve started the day reasonably well. I had big plans for my Monday #LinkedIn post, for the morning in general… but I just can’t quite get moving! I’d love to … Continue reading What do you do when you need to get yourself going – when you’re short on motivation? →
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SAVVI – a system approach to identifying vulnerability 
Andrew Humphrey recently found out about SAVVI, which stands for “a Scalable Approach to Vulnerability via Interoperability”. Read Andrew’s blog post to see how SAVVI can transform how organisations deliver public services use their and others’ data to improve the work they do and outcomes for the vulnerable people identified.
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Ecosystem readiness for outcomes-based partnerships: key conditions, capacities and characteristics
6 April 1pm-2.30pm Register here: https://golab.bsg.ox.ac.uk/community/events/ecosystem-readiness-for-outcomes-based-partnerships-key-conditions-capacities-an
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E3M, Harnessing the full potential of social enterprises for public services and to meet local needs
Event date: 25/05/2022 Time: 9:30-17:30 (plus reception 18.00-20.00) Location: Clothworkers’ Hall, Dunster Court, Mincing Lane, London, EC3R 7AH This special E3M event will explore how local public bodies can harness the potential of social enterprises as their purpose-aligned partners. Participants will: Get ideas and new connections to support the development of new approaches to challenges […]
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Highlights from Stronger Things event by New Local
Read the highlights from Stronger Things 2022 on these two links: https://www.newlocal.org.uk/events/community-power-making-the-dream-a-reality/  https://www.newlocal.org.uk/events/strongerthings/
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Reconceiving the Digital Network: From Cells to Selves | Johnson et al (2022)
Reconceiving the Digital Network: From Cells to Selves Mark William Johnson, Elizabeth Maitland, John Torday & Sebastian H. D. Fiedler  Chapter First Online: 22 April 2022 Part of the Postdigital Science and Education book series (PSE) Abstract The concept of the postdigital and current conceptions of the biodigital stem from an understanding of computer networks […]
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SCiO events from tonight 26 April to DACH Camp in Aalen on 17 June 2022 – Belgium, Espana, Nederland, UK, DACH
For all links go to https://systemspractice.org/events SCiO UK SCiO UK Virtual Development Event – April 2022 Tue 26 April 2022 19:00–21:09 GMT+1 SCiO’s Development Days offer an opportunity to draw upon the collective expertise of SCiO members in a friendly and supportive atmosphere. By taking Development Events online, using the Zoom meeting platform, we aim […]
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Reification and Thingification: the primitive ravens.
Originally posted on arthur~battram…: Those other ravens were Thought and Memory. No, they weren’t in the Marvel movies, they’d end up being Hekyll and Jekyll in Song O’ the South, shudder, racist bickering disney sidekicks… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huginn_and_Muninn Anyway, we’re all familiar with reification, it means making into a thing. It’s what they did to Murphy…
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Metacognition as a Consequence of Competing Evolutionary Time Scales | Kuchling et al (2022)
Metacognition as a Consequence of Competing Evolutionary Time Scales Entropy | Free Full-Text | Metacognition as a Consequence of Competing Evolutionary Time Scales | HTML Abstract Evolution is full of coevolving systems characterized by complex spatio-temporal interactions that lead to intertwined processes of adaptation. Yet, how adaptation across multiple levels of temporal scales and biological […]
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Guest editorial: Complexity as a model for social innovation and social entrepreneurship: is there order in the chaos? | French et al (2022)
Guest editorial: Complexity as a model for social innovation and social entrepreneurship: is there order in the chaos? Guest editorial: Complexity as a model for social innovation and social entrepreneurship: is there order in the chaos? | Emerald Insight Introduction: social innovation, social entrepreneurship and complexity: exploring the linkages Whether describing a looming social problem […]
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(Re)Design: frameworks, tools and scenarios for the Systemic Design approach – 4 May 2022 5pm UK time
(Re)Design: frameworks, tools and scenarios for the Systemic Design ApproachDATEOn Wednesday, 4th May 2022 from 17:00 p.m. to 18:30 p.m. (UTC+2)PLACEOnline Meetup (you will receive the access link by email after your registration) (Re)Design: frameworks, tools and scenarios for the Systemic Design approach – foryouandyourcustomers
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ENSO Seminar Series – The Energy Homeostasis Principle: A naturalistic approach to explain the emergence of behaviour – Villalobos and Vergara, online May 5, 2022, 3 p.m. UTC
The Energy Homeostasis Principle: A naturalistic approach to explain the emergence of behaviourMario Villalobos and Rodrigo VergaraUniversidad de Tarapacá y Universidad Metropolitana de las Ciencias de la EducaciónMay 5, 2022, 3 p.m. UTC // May 5, 2022, 3 p.m. in UTC ENSO Seminar Series
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Timothy Clancy Systems Dynamics PhD – Lifecycles of Violence & Instability of Non-State Actors (2022)
Timothy Clancy Author Page for Timothy Clancy :: SSRN In the Complexity Explorers (SFI) group on Facebook, Tim Clancy posted this (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2156854757698450/?multi_permalinks=5456539021063324): The dissertation may be of technical interest to folks in this community because it touches on a lot of aspects we’ve discussed over the years related to complex systems including determining causality, depicting […]
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Place-based methodologies in transdisciplinary research – Integration and Implementation Insights
Place-based methodologies in transdisciplinary research – Integration and Implementation Insights
By Alexandra Crosby and Ilaria Vanni How can place-based methodologies be integrated into transdisciplinary research? Locating research in a real physical place is vital in building culture and mak…
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Taking Michael Garfield to Task: The Future of Fossils like Jim Rutt
Taking Michael Garfield to Task: The Future of Fossils like Jim Rutt
PATREON EXCLUSIVE #1Brent Cooper takes Michael Garfield “to task” in this video critique solicited by him in good faith and on friendly terms. It speci…
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Applying VSM, SSM, and SAST for problem-structuring and problem-solving in health systems – Chowdhury (2021)
Rajneesh Chowdhury, Ph.D. Happy to share my latest research paper in the Systemist (the official journal of the UK Systems Society), titled, “Applying VSM, SSM, and SAST for problem-structuring and problem-solving in health systems”. (Cover date Winter, 2021).ABSTRACTSystems thinking can lend a powerful perspective for problem-structuring and problem-solving in health systems. They can serve to […]
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Forgiving Design vs. the Forgiveness of Slow Speeds
Forgiving Design vs. the Forgiveness of Slow Speeds
The “safety features” built into our modern streets are often downright dangerous. It’s time to use the forgiveness of slow speeds instead of forgiving design.
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Exploring the Complexity of Music – SITE Santa Fe Monday 16 May 7pm local time
Exploring the Complexity of MusicMonday, May 16, 2022, 7pm at SITE Santa FeSITE Santa Fe and the Santa Fe Institute are proud to present Exploring the Complexity of Music, a concert highlighting “complexity in music” as interpreted by individual composers and performers.This event coincides with the opening of a forum on Complexity and Structure of […]
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The Technium: 103 Bits of Advice I Wish I Had Known
Today is my birthday. I turn 70. I’ve learned a few things so far that might be helpful to others. For the past few years, I’ve jotted down bits of unsolicited advice each year and much to my surprise I
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A Complexity Science Approach Towards Improving Human Health
Originally posted on Complexity Digest: Center for Collective Dynamics of Complex Systems (CoCo) Seminar Series April 22, 2022 Rion Brattig Correia (Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Portugal / SSIE,… Watch at: vimeo.com
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Autopoiesis: the organization of living systems, its characterization and a model. | Varela, Maturana, Uribe (1974)
Autopoiesis: the organization of living systems, its characterization and a model.F. G. Varela, H. Maturana, R. UribePublished 1 May 1974 Autopoiesis: the organization of living systems, its characterization and a model. | Semantic Scholar I’m a little surprised this wasn’t already here (it may be one of the things that was on model.report and therefore […]
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Benjamin P. Taylor on Twitter: "You can put out a tender with 167 compliance questions and 13 challenging quality questions; nobody can stop you. You can pull it for further consideration if needed. Reissue it with subtly tweaked questions and word count that require it all to be rewritten if'n you must."
You can put out a tender with 167 compliance questions and 13 challenging quality questions; nobody can stop you. You can pull it for further consideration if needed. Reissue it with subtly tweaked questions and word count that require it all to be rewritten if'n you must. 11:48 PM · Apr 28, 2022·Buffer View Tweet analytics Replying to @antlerboy Tweet your reply Reply Benjamin P. Taylor @antlerboy · 17h Replying to @antlerboy But when your word document requires responses which may include tables to be within boxes within tables… and then the ENTIRE THING turns out to be within a single box in a mega-table… don’t expect the best responses we can produce. 2 1
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David Henig 🇺🇦 on Twitter: "Really confused as to how a great "oven ready" deal in 2019 turned out to be an EU trick but that this still didn't stop the UK reaching agreement with the same EU in 2020 which was also great except it didn't seem to make the UK government any happier with the 2019 deal..."
Really confused as to how a great “oven ready” deal in 2019 turned out to be an EU trick but that this still didn’t stop the UK reaching agreement with the same EU in 2020 which was also great except it didn’t seem to make the UK government any happier with the 2019 deal…
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Self-organization in Pedestrian and Traffic Systems and Logistics MOOC
Originally posted on Complexity Digest: •Content: 3 Modules, each consisting of several videos•Estimated: 4 work weeks, 1h per week•Self-​paced, progress at your own speed•No cost to enrol•Subject: Computer Science, Traffic Systems, Social Science•Level: Introductory•Language: English•Target groups: Students, citizen scientists, politicians, journalists, researchers of different fields(urban planners, architects, computer scientists)•Recommended Reading: Helbing, Dirk. Next Civilization: Digital…
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Laila Al-Arian on Twitter: "Held for 20 years, including 120 days at a CIA black site. Never charged with a crime.… "
Held for 20 years, including 120 days at a CIA black site. Never charged with a crime. Quote Tweet
The New York Times @nytimes · Apr 27 The youngest detainee at Guantánamo Bay, a Yemeni man who has been held since 2002 without charge, has been cleared for release, the Pentagon said. But he now must wait for the Biden administration to find a country willing to offer him rehabilitation. https://nyti.ms/3F54j6x
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Tom Pride on Twitter: "“If I am ever asked to produce my ID card as evidence that I am who I say I am I will take that card out of my wallet and physically eat it in the presence of whatever emanation of the state has demanded that I produce it.” @BorisJohnson 2004. Yesterday Johnson passed a law ..."
“If I am ever asked to produce my ID card as evidence that I am who I say I am I will take that card out of my wallet and physically eat it in the presence of whatever emanation of the state has demanded that I produce it.” @BorisJohnson 2004.
Yesterday Johnson passed a law …
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Transformation Literacy: Pathways to Regenerative Civilizations – Eds Kunkel and Ragnarsdottir (2022) – full book open access
Transformation LiteracyPathways to Regenerative Civilizatio Transformation Literacy | SpringerLink This open access book brings science and practice together and inspires a global movement towards co-creating regenerative civilizations that work for 100% of humanity and the Earth as a whole. With its conceptual foundation of the concept of transformation literacy it enhances the knowledge and capacity […]
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The Church Forests of Ethiopia
The Church Forests of Ethiopia
Nearly all of Ethiopia’s old-growth forest has disappeared. This film tells the story of Ethiopia’s church forests–pockets of lush biodiversity that surround…
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Benjamin P. Taylor on Twitter: "LOL My first ever permaban from an online community comes from Reddit's r/greenandpleasant for politely suggesting that there was not, actually, a push to privatise the NHS - and providing evidence. Why do the left consistently undermine themselves by exaggerating and even lying?"
LOL My first ever permaban from an online community comes from Reddit’s r/greenandpleasant for politely suggesting that there was not, actually, a push to privatise the NHS - and providing evidence. Why do the left consistently undermine themselves by exaggerating and even lying?
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Heroes — 7 x 7 Archetypes. So whether you’re telling a story… | by Grey Swan Guild | Medium
Heroes — 7 x 7 Archetypes. So whether you’re telling a story… | by Grey Swan Guild | Medium
So many gaming, literary and comic book sites have diagnosed their legions of heroes, dissecting and sorting through their superpowers or traits. Here’s a site that has profiled 1,000+ genuses…
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Archaeology Magazine on Twitter: "#FBF: In eastern Serbia, strip miners unearthed a well-preserved flat-bottomed ship, likely dating to the Roman period, that was built for navigating the shallow waters of what was once a tributary of the Danube. https://t.co/rY1Lqce3le… https://t.co/LmcdRR2SK4"
Archaeology Magazine on Twitter: "#FBF: In eastern Serbia, strip miners unearthed a well-preserved flat-bottomed ship, likely dating to the Roman period, that was built for navigating the shallow waters of what was once a tributary of the Danube. https://t.co/rY1Lqce3le… https://t.co/LmcdRR2SK4"
FBF: In eastern Serbia, strip miners unearthed a well-preserved flat-bottomed ship, likely dating to the Roman period, that was built for navigating the shallow waters of what was once a tributary of the Danube.
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What Gets Measured… | Julian Stodd's Learning Blog
What Gets Measured… | Julian Stodd's Learning Blog
There’s a common expression and management dogma that ‘what gets measured gets done’, which may well be true - but we should not conflate that with thinking that what gets done is what needs to be done, nor that what gets measured has value. Indeed: what gets measured is often that which we can easily…
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Adam Bienkov on Twitter: "Allowing the government's own Brexit deal to be fully implemented "would have been an act of self harm," says Jacob Rees-Mogg. https://t.co/JnVDRPporC"
Adam Bienkov on Twitter: "Allowing the government's own Brexit deal to be fully implemented "would have been an act of self harm," says Jacob Rees-Mogg. https://t.co/JnVDRPporC"
Allowing the government’s own Brexit deal to be fully implemented “would have been an act of self harm,” says Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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Act to live! Viability in times of uncertainty – Metaphorum
Act to live! Viability in times of uncertainty 14th Metaphorum Conference 2022, Leuven, Belgium, 10-12 June
All problems, whether they are regarded as problems of recognition, or classification, or indeed decision, are problems about uncertainty. 
Stafford Beer
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Thea Snow on Twitter: "In systems practice it’s important to avoid approaches which suggest the system can be comprehensively mapped/understood (it can’t). But it’s also imp. to avoid the sense of nihilism which can emerge from understanding we can never really know anything. What’s the middle ground?"
In systems practice it’s important to avoid approaches which suggest the system can be comprehensively mapped/understood (it can’t). But it’s also imp. to avoid the sense of nihilism which can emerge from understanding we can never really know anything.
What’s the middle ground?
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Three cabinet ministers reportedly facing allegations of sexual misconduct | UK news | The Guardian
Ministers are among 56 MPs said to be accused of sexual misconduct after being referred to parliamentary watchdog
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David Nutt on Twitter: "remarkable impact of vaping to stop USA kids smoking - despite the anti-vape media hysteria - just like @Drug_Science predicted in 2014 https://t.co/5Lc6qyycLH"
David Nutt on Twitter: "remarkable impact of vaping to stop USA kids smoking - despite the anti-vape media hysteria - just like @Drug_Science predicted in 2014 https://t.co/5Lc6qyycLH"
remarkable impact of vaping to stop USA kids smoking - despite the anti-vape media hysteria - just like @Drug_Science predicted in 2014
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Will women leaders change the future of management? | Financial Times
Will women leaders change the future of management? | Financial Times
The demographics of work and business are shifting rapidly — and the male-dominated model is overdue an overhaul
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Mark O'Neill on Twitter: "Every story on the front page of today’s Sunday Telegraph is utterly hatstand but this is the key one. This is “cones hotline” territory and a clear sign of impending collapse. Sympathy with civil servants trying to get on with work in this madness.… https://t.co/OQQYUpkK97"
Mark O'Neill on Twitter: "Every story on the front page of today’s Sunday Telegraph is utterly hatstand but this is the key one. This is “cones hotline” territory and a clear sign of impending collapse. Sympathy with civil servants trying to get on with work in this madness.… https://t.co/OQQYUpkK97"
Every story on the front page of today’s Sunday Telegraph is utterly hatstand but this is the key one. This is “cones hotline” territory and a clear sign of impending collapse. Sympathy with civil servants trying to get on with work in this madness.
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Mark O'Neill on Twitter: "The Cameron “Bonfire of the quangos” was a hugely expensive disaster. The loss of COI crippled the response to COVID. The scrapping of the RDAs is being badly and belatedly undone. And the abolition of the Audit Committee has cost us £ billions!"
The Cameron “Bonfire of the quangos” was a hugely expensive disaster.
The loss of COI crippled the response to COVID.
The scrapping of the RDAs is being badly and belatedly undone.
And the abolition of the Audit Committee has cost us £ billions!
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24th April 1932: Kinder Scout mass trespass.Militant action & the right to roam | Kmflett's Blog
24th April 1932: Kinder Scout mass trespass.Militant action & the right to roam | Kmflett's Blog
24th April 1932: Kinder Scout mass trespass. Militant action & the right to roam Despite Parliamentary legislation much land in Britain remains private with no legal access for walkers. Progress has however been made and today is the 90th anniversary of the Kinder Scout Mass Trespass  on a grouse moor in the Peak District. Led…
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Subscribe to the FT to read: Financial Times KPMG wins UK government contracts despite withdrawing from bidding after scandals
News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publication
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Benjamin P. Taylor on Twitter: "This is why I'm proud to be a Fellow of @GoodGovernInst The #FestivalOfGovernance2022 is on 'good governance because #fairer is better' You can find out more and register to be at the top of the list here: https://t.co/7N1yCw5s8d #nolanprinciples"
Benjamin P. Taylor on Twitter: "This is why I'm proud to be a Fellow of @GoodGovernInst The #FestivalOfGovernance2022 is on 'good governance because #fairer is better' You can find out more and register to be at the top of the list here: https://t.co/7N1yCw5s8d #nolanprinciples"
This is why I’m proud to be a Fellow of @GoodGovernInst
The #FestivalOfGovernance2022 is on ‘good governance because #fairer is better’ You can find out more and register to be at the top of the list here: https://bit.ly/3Kclu6Q
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The Navvies. The men who built Britain’s railways… | by John Welford | Medium
The Navvies. The men who built Britain’s railways… | by John Welford | Medium
This is a short of account of the navvies — the men who did most of the hard work in creating the network of railway lines built by the Victorians in Great Britain. Some 20,000 miles of railway track…
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UK’s Brexit losses more than 178 times bigger than trade deal gains | The Independent
Exclusive: All trade deals combined worth less than 50p per person a year, analysis of government figures shows
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221 – Self-Immolation (w/ Brent Cooper) – srsly wrong
221 – Self-Immolation (w/ Brent Cooper) – srsly wrong
221 – Self-Immolation (w/ Brent Cooper) BY SRSLY WRONG · PUBLISHED OCTOBER 30, 2020 · UPDATED NOVEMBER 25, 2020
On May 29, 2019, Arnav Gupta burned himself alive on the White House lawn, wearing a USA t-shirt. Very few people noticed, and even fewer tried to listen to what Arnav might have been telling us.
Activist and writer Brent Cooper joins the Wrong Boys for a wide-ranging discussion on this event, self-immolation broadly, and a metamodernist approach to critiquing society and building a better world.
~Episode Artwork by Arnav Gupta, entitled  “HARAMBE OR BLACK PANTHER: THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT”~
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Benjamin P. Taylor on Twitter: "I dunno, folks. I'm half hoping someone will tell me off and tell me why this is wrong, because it doesn't look great.… https://t.co/fZWrJqve3I"
I dunno, folks. I’m half hoping someone will tell me off and tell me why this is wrong, because it doesn’t look great. Quote Tweet
Chris Turnbull @EnemyInAState · Apr 25 Sars2/Covid UK:Deaths continue to rise: 325 within 28 days of +ve test on average: 3.2 x higher than pre Freedom Day 2 average. Official cases are starting to rise while Zoe app data says they are falling—still over 3.2 million are reported to be infectious (symptomatic)
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Two papers by Visser: Gregory Bateson on deutero-learning and double bind: a brief conceptual history (2003) and Deutero-Learning in Organizations: A Review and a Reformulation (2007) | Systems Community of Inquiry
Gregory Bateson on deutero-learning and double bind: a brief conceptual historyMax VisserGregory Bateson on deutero-learning and double bind: a brief conceptual history - PubMed https://www.researchdatashare.org/sites/default/files/artifacts/media/pdf/jhbs.10112.pdf Deutero-Learning in Organizations: A Review and a Reformulation[PDF] Deutero-Learning in Organizations: A Review and a Reformulation | Semantic Scholar
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How are you doing on the eight aspects of commissioning?
How are you doing on the eight aspects of commissioning?
Benjamin Taylor shares a new tool from the Public Service Transformation Academy with RedQuadrant to help you give insight into your commissioning.
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Sue Mckenzie on Twitter: "Visited libraries in Ireland last week for our work on the new national strategy. Some stunning and sustainable buildings from our travels. We were so impressed and a bit jealous….#libraries… https://t.co/hMB1OxFnI5"
Sue Mckenzie on Twitter: "Visited libraries in Ireland last week for our work on the new national strategy. Some stunning and sustainable buildings from our travels. We were so impressed and a bit jealous….#libraries… https://t.co/hMB1OxFnI5"
Visited libraries in Ireland last week for our work on the new national strategy. Some stunning and sustainable buildings from our travels. We were so impressed and a bit jealous….#libraries
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Stone Age Herbalist on Twitter: "The story of Russian Orthodoxy among Native Americans is largely unknown, despite being a tale of shipwrecks, martyrs, determined scholars and Native warriors. So a thread:… https://t.co/X9YGueflF4"
Stone Age Herbalist on Twitter: "The story of Russian Orthodoxy among Native Americans is largely unknown, despite being a tale of shipwrecks, martyrs, determined scholars and Native warriors. So a thread:… https://t.co/X9YGueflF4"
The story of Russian Orthodoxy among Native Americans is largely unknown, despite being a tale of shipwrecks, martyrs, determined scholars and Native warriors. So a thread:
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Anthony Painter on Twitter: "Tesla is not a green technology. Not by a long shot. It's actually dangerous that so many think it is."
Tesla is not a green technology. Not by a long shot. It’s actually dangerous that so many think it is.
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Homes For Ukraine whistleblower says UK refugee scheme is ‘designed to fail’ | Ukraine | The Guardian
Worker claims confused staff are ‘making up response’ to applications and visas are withheld to keep numbers down
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